thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> let's bring back the gaggle. final thoughts here. if i posed this question to you, kevin, a year from now, 2013, we will say 2013 was about what in washington? >> i think a lot of it has to do with the numberen party's going to be trying to modernize their message, but i think the two parties are now at an effort to sort of energize their base and get things done in washington. going to be looking at two big issues, i think the tax reform. there's general disagreement. >> how it goes? >> where they agree on things like corporate rate and that tax reform. and also immigration reform. >> and stephanie, let me put it a slightly different way. how long does president obama's second term last? second terms don't last four years sometimes. domestically. >> they last four years but there is a shelf life to what you can get done because people are going to start looking at the midterms pretty quickly. 2013 is a very important year to get things done, tax reform, immigration reform, we have to finish implementing the heal